I’m Britt and my name is Alissa and this is skeletales and this is a podcaster we strive to answer the age-old question of is my dead Grandma watching me you are in for a treat tonight because we are gathered around a cozy fire with a hot beverage in hand with a superstar guest tonight she is a practicing medium Clairvoyant in Austin Texas who helps people discover their abilities through mentorship I first discovered this guest while listening to the night out podcast way back in 2019 I would like to welcome to this show Sarah Reeves welcome Sarah hi ladies how are y'all hi sir welcome I'm gonna try really hard not to fangirl out too much tonight because it's been my dream to have you on the show I'm so excited to talk to you well thank you for reaching out so I appreciate it and here I am yay I love it so I first heard you um on the night owl podcast and for any listeners who have not listened to the night owl podcast I'm gonna give a little gist of how the show goes so the host Stephen Ballou will travel to notoriously haunted places and then gather details about the hauntings happening there interview people and then investigate the history of the place but I find that the creme de La Creme is when he brings Sarah in after he's done all this leg work Sarah comes in knowing absolutely nothing about the location the hauntings nothing and with absolute Precision you will walk in and just start talking to the spirits there's a guy over here there's a little girl upstairs and it's all act everybody who's talked to like one of example I think it was a restaurant uh that had a stair going up and down this one uh server there kept getting their hair tugged you walk in oh there's somebody on the stairs she likes to pull hair with the exact Precision so it's pretty um incredible listening to you on the podcast so that's sort of the first flavor that I got from Sarah but I kind of want to dive in and start from the beginning could you sort of let us know how you first discovered your abilities ah uh well I can't I say the word discover because it was just something that I've always been able to do since I was a kid okay and fortunately for me I grew up in a family that didn't do you know they believed they believed in stuff like this right and kind of in an obscure kind of way right the way that our culture was was kind of like yes that exists now shut up go to bed and say your prayers right I'll do it okay right I'll I'll do that so I just I think as I kind of got older and life kind of happened I thought I had a really interesting life um life kind of happened I had my kids and I was like I have no room for any of these Spirits right I was like nope go away see you later right I've got kids I gotta keep alive and kind of moving and so I just kind of created this block and um there was a really rough kind of emotional space uh happening in our family around 2012 and this is when you know basically [ __ ] hit the fan right like in the house um things were just moving around stuff was happening but my family like my husband is really big on like these things he understands that these things happen but it's like my children especially one my daughter she was like she was not the kind of like I see things I believe in like that's she was like no she came out she was like Mom there's some weird things happening in the house right but she told me like I I'm preparing you for some crazy things right and I was like like what what's going on and you know she started explaining the things that she was seeing and that was moving around and then we all had like group Encounters of stuff that was happening but what um I didn't realize that it wasn't just in the house right I was also having these encounters outside of the house and so my husband was the one that reached out to Stephen beluz team at the time they were a paranormal group that would come into investigations at your house and they came they came during that time and they investigated our house and that's how we met so they were the ones that were like it's not your house you're the problem and I was like my God damn I he's absolutely right and it still didn't sink in until maybe about six or so months later right because I was in this new job during that time and about six or so months later the security guard from the building that I go into actually he said hey I know you're here really early because I usually got in like around six and he was like he goes let me show you something I was like sure so he walked me over to the security cameras and he was like I'm gonna backdate some of the stuff that's here and let you look at something and I said okay great and it shows me walking into the building I said good morning and he's there and he's like hey how's it going you know I walk in I push the yellow elevator button and I look and I actively say good morning to somebody that's not there and he's like he goes no no wait and so the elevator door opens up I go in he changes cameras and he shows me the inside of the elevator and I'm standing like this and you see the floor like light up and my floor light up like another floor in my floor and I'm not even touching the elevator buttons and I'm just kind of standing there and I'm gabbing away oh oh I'm talking to somebody in the elevator actively like looking at them talking to them the elevator doors open they walk out I say hey how's it going they close I get off on my floor and he goes you have been doing that every day since you started working here there's just about every day it's freaking me the [ __ ] out well I need to know like what are you like our D are you having some kind of psychological issue right like he was trying to really figure out like he was very concerned and I was like no I'm I like it's a man like it's a man that I'm talking to and I explained like what do you look like the name on his badge like everything and he just kind of was like okay and he went back and had to do some research because he's you know he hasn't been in that building very long yeah and he talked to somebody who had worked there for a long time and he said oh yeah that's the guy that worked on this floor and he had a heart attack and died at work oh my God gosh let it work so it wasn't until he came back with me was like Hey I have some answers for you and some pictures right is this the person that you're talking and I said yeah that's him he's like she's been dead for like three years and I was like hmm perhaps Mr Ballou has a point

in the elevator you didn't realize that this gentleman was I didn't even realize that he was a spiritual person like what would you talk about just normal normal everyday like like the normal elevator Chit Chat oh how's the weather today how's it going blah blah this and that I knew about his wife right and he knew about his son and I was like oh you know this and this and that which was funny because I knew current events of his wife and his side like things that were happening now not things from before so it was really weird that it was we were having that conversation and somebody who knew him from the building actually we I had to talk to her and she was she was like no that's like that's a current thing that's not something that happened before he passed away so we had this release so you know then I freaked out a couple of people from work but it is yes it is what it is so that security guard after that was kind of like there's that weird chick right like that's gonna go on the letter again that is one hell of a way to find out you have an ability for sure I mean like I had it I just ignored it and then yeah it presented itself like here you go ignore me now right yeah like it was like if I knew the answer and I was still blocking and it said okay here you go Universe said you're going to do this I'm like yeah okay what you're meant for so can we sorry can we back up just a little bit well actually a lot I suppose so you said you knew it was happening when you were a kid so you'd be a kid in your bedroom and would there'd just be people there that you would talk to or my first encounter was with my grandmother um we grew up in you know she was in Mexico so we would go and visit her and you know we grew up going to her house and she would make us breakfast it'd be awesome and there was just one time when I was laying down and I looked up and she was making us breakfast but there was somebody else in the kitchen with her and I noted the weird thing that she would like she would pause to kind of remember what ingredient was next and the person would point and she would go oh that's right and then she would put it in right and I was like that's weird and so and after a little bit I kind of got up and I walked into the kitchen because she was making tortillas and let me tell you homemade fresh flour tortillas it smells so good with a little bit of butter right and I was like if I'm the first one up and I beat all my siblings it's gonna be great right so I got up I walked over there and I asked her I was like you know can I have one and she's like sure she should put some butter on it she rolled it up for me and I was like who was the lady that was here talking to you and she was like what lady and I'm like yeah the lady and I I was like and I turned and I was like that's like like she was sitting right there and I see the lady and she goes like this to me and she's wearing like a black veil over her face and she just like just and I was like eat my tortilla don't stop anything right now and I was little like I was little as maybe about six or seven um and then fast forward maybe about a month I was you know in my house in bed middle of the night and I feel the bed sink right so I kind of look over to see you know because sometimes my Mom would sit at the edge of the bed or something so I look over to see who it was and it was my grandmother she was sitting at the edge of the bed and I was like what do you do you like kind of like what are you doing here like in the middle of the night and then I see somebody's hand just come up over her shoulder and it was that lady that I had seen in her kitchen right and she said your mom is going to be upset she's going to come and she's going to wake you up she's gonna be upset I want you to be a good girl and I just want you to listen to her and I know she's going to be upset but everything is going to be okay and I said okay right had no idea what she's talking about and I said sure right she's like okay go back to sleep so I went back to sleep and a little bit later my mom woke me up crying and that she said that my grandmother had passed away and I was like how and I kind of like looked around the room like how is that possible right I just saw her I was when I was gonna talk and I was like I might not say anything because she was Rick really really upset and it still I still didn't understand like what it was or what happened until we went to her house and in Mexico you know they they the funeral services are fast very very fast and they put her like her they'll put her casket and their shoes in there and then they put like a plate of glass over it in her house and so we were all kind of sitting there and they were all talking about her like she wasn't there and I'm like

okay right like because she was floating around the room listening to everybody kind of chit chatting and making faces when they were saying something stupid or coming and standing next to me and so was her mom like her my great grandma were just walking around and so that's who the other that's yeah and I didn't realize who she was until I until that day because somebody had pictures older pictures and she has the one picture of my great grandma with the bill like she was wearing a veil from church they put the little bell things off and Chevelle was pulled back and I could see her face and I was like that's the lady that was in the kitchen so those were you know and that was when I was like seven six or seven years old and I always saw something weird going on in the house and you never told your mom that oh yeah my mom knew my mom my mom knew later yeah I told her later on because her we had another relative that was a gurandera that worked in Mexico and she already knew that I could see and so she she taught my mom's things and she taught us as you know kind of like her grandchildren would teach us little things here and there so she knew that I could do this herself she even said you can see these things you know that sound and we watched her do like like bringing Spirits or remove Spirits or do things and I could actually see the things that were going on and it never really I was to me it was just part of whatever she was doing right never really scared me so this is in your bloodline then it's part of the family oh that's part of the family part of the family so it was really it was really odd and cool at the same time but so you had the realization that these people you were seeing were actually passed um or if you have another better word that you like to use please no okay and then at a certain point you realized maybe that this was not for everybody to know and that you needed to kind of rein it in to try to be normal it was interfering so like in my situation I grew up in somebody else's home right in my family line this is something that does exist but they don't talk about it because we do have a family member that had schizophrenia so for me for me that was something that if I said that in where I was to like other people outside of the family they would think that I was crazy right and they would be like let's medicate her let's do so my mom was like you do not tell anybody anybody but us that you're seeing these things because I believe you I know that it's happening I know that it's there but you do not say anything about it to anybody so it was a very difficult thing for me to balance once I got into like junior high school high school that I just said nope I'm not going to deal with it so I just erased that part so for a little while right I was just building walls building blocks building walls and I would see him I would there I would just wouldn't interact I wouldn't interact I wouldn't I would just kind of like it's not there um until like my daughter she had a imaginary imaginary friend right imaginary friends and I knew always where this damn imaginary friend was and my husband was like how do you you know how do you know I'm like don't sit in that chair

don't sit down here don't eat that piece of don't eat that piece of popcorn don't have like you know like whatever it was like that's not for you her imaginary leave her alone her imaginary friends there and he was like how do you know where this imaginary friends is all the time I'm like I just can see it right and it wasn't that I could see the imaginary friend I could see the energy that was in there yeah and I was like there's something there and she was actively looking at it so I knew that it was something so just leave it alone right don't don't don't mess with it but she got older she created a block so she blocks everything up oh no that is so fascinating it's fantastic fantastic if you ever want to be quiet as a medium or psychic invite my daughter over everything gets quiet it's great oh interesting everything she's a huge energy blogger and I love that about her I don't want to divert too far but I do want to ask real quick do you think that those family member who had schizophrenia actually had schizophrenia or were they seeing things they had like they had both because what scared me is that I could see what they could see sometimes oh my goodness right then I'd be like there is a thing yeah that's you all right wow how confusing that hadn't been so it was hard it was confusing and hard okay so then you fast forward to like you said 2012 things are happening in your house things are moving if essentially the spirits are no longer accepting that you're that to be ignored they do not want to be ignored do not want to be ignored they do not and then you meet Stephen well so I didn't realize that Stephen and the team had been doing this pre-podcast yeah they had an occult team they had an occult team that was going out and um investigating houses and doing all this kind of stuff and it was literally the whole team at that we started off for the podcast so it was you know it was Franklin Alexis uh Stephen and Tao right okay it was all four of them that came to the house and they were setting up equipment and doing all that kind of stuff and it was really good a good a good sense of who they were right when they came in so at this point was Alexis I know that he's um more sensitive than other members of the team was he the one that sort of was like I sensed the energy or I feel like you really were at the time I'm missing piece of the team Alexis at the time was the one that was studying everything because his his way of working in spirit world is completely different from mine so if you can't see the way that I see but he can he can you can go to him and he's very knowledgeable about how the spirits work and when you're working with them and the types of ritual styles that are out there or the types of cultural styles that are out there that are going in there he has a lot a lot of information there's a lot in that brain right a lot of information of of the occult of the spirit world of working in anything in metaphysics he's really really knowledgeable him and Eric right so he came during that time with all that knowledge right with a lot of that knowledge now he's a little bit better he's a little bit better where he is now you know he can like see energies and experience them a little bit better because he's been practicing all of this time so that's kind of where they came in to that and they were just kind of like all right and then for like five years I didn't hear from them right but it happened over five years but it was okay because during that five years was the time that I was like actively uh gaining my own knowledge practicing working with energy kind of getting comfortable with understanding how to identify what was the spirit versus what was a human being right and how to kind of create boundaries and reaching out to some of the older stuff you had to reach out to even family members like my aunt my sister my aunts like everybody to kind of go like remember this and try to piece together the things that we we were taught when we were younger because our older people have already passed yeah so it was really kind of just trying to put together and finding information about what we did as a family as a culture what I do as myself that's part of who I am and then all the cultures that I'm from right so it's kind of like bringing in all these Styles and finding out what works for me what doesn't a really understanding why I can see certain things that other people like they might be sensitive like me but how come they're not seeing this thing or really had to understand like Realms and vibration and like all these things so it took me time to put it all together so when Stephen reached back out to me to be like hey how's that thing going with you looking at you know spirits and stuff why don't you meet you know he tricked me he's like why don't you make me a coffee and that was the first time let's go to spider house

he tricked me the little [ __ ] but oh so that's a podcast episode he had you come and he'd already done the research that already recorded it was the first episode let's see if she can check if this checks out if you listen to it he only has like one thing that like one thing that I say and he edits it in different places because he didn't really hate he wasn't prepared for what was going to happen so he didn't have anything to record on by the time he started recording it was like ah so he pee smelled it all together so yeah I didn't know I didn't know exactly what he was doing he's like do you mind if I record something and like yeah sure and he was just like we were there for a few hours just yeah back and forth so it was just kind of fun because it was like I didn't quite understand what it was I thought

I thought head first into this thing I want to be part of this it's great I already recorded it I was like sure did probably blow his mind because the last time he saw you was just at your house having stuff happening there and then you come in I mean that episode you're straight up like there's a female I I you were like call you knew their names like such detail that you know every time you go in yeah I bet he was he's been out tricking me ever since he's good I got this great place I'm like all right well you let me know where to meet you and it's like four blocks away and you're like ushering me through the back alley of somewhere to get me into the spot are you kidding me thinking I'm like uh yeah I don't know why I'm getting all this stuff but yeah so it's it was it's it's fun it's it's fun for me I enjoy this other people might not but I don't mind it if they're like hey we're gonna go somewhere and it sounds fun as long as it's not terrifying like I think a lot of people would be scared to be in your shoes and see people that aren't there um don't get scared I'm gonna say I I spawned the way that others okay right I give myself a chance to ask should I really be scared of what's going on right and and wait but you know there's times where you know I walked in there went like what did you just do to me oh huh um how long do these typical um session like when you're going in through the door for the first time like I know it's got to be at least a couple of hours that you're in this location right or does it vary well with Stephen um it was longer we would be there maybe about three or four hours depending on what was going on and how big the place was because the the place is really big um but after about four hours I run out of his team and I'm like no we're not going to do that it's gonna be a dream you typically would go back sometimes uh just to make sure and kind of you know get more information if there's more information to get but typically my first pass is usually the right pass so it's uh maybe about an hour and a half maybe two hours right the second pass is usually just getting getting other little things or them going hey can you concentrate on this one space or can you give me a little bit more information about this one thing you said and so then I could tap back into the energy and that's the way that I get it but usually my first pass is the is the right one for me yeah you mentioned earlier that you were training yourself to discern between real people and Spirits like the fella in the elevator you had no idea that he was a spirit or a ghost I don't would you call do you have a preferred energy how what is the giveaways now now that you've identified it like what it depends because he was such a strong um he was a strong Spirit himself and he understood how to work with energy so he knew how to push the buttons on the elevator you know he knew how to do these kinds of things and be Corporal he was it was very easy for him to be full-bodied right what I needed to pay attention to was little details like they can't hold full body for a long period of time so there's things that would happen like maybe like the hairline would erase or the feet would start to disappear right or the hands would be more translucent than than prior and I wasn't really picking these details up yeah right until like I really had practice and went oh okay because it's kind of like watching like the pixelation that happens like on the TV if the pixels aren't right right and that's kind of like looking at that and going oh okay that's not a thing it's not a person Sarah after you realize that the person in the elevator wasn't a real person I mean physical person I should say did you continue to see him or he he's he kept visiting you okay that's why the security guard goes there's that weird lady still talking to them right now I still was gonna not say good morning and I still was you know letting him do stuff I would just stop him from lighting up the buttons Okay calculator I'd say I'll do it what for I'd put it so that I would push it because I didn't want other people because the security guards can see all this stuff right yeah yeah so they were like um I don't want you just magically lighting up by itself right that was very gracious of the security guard to come to you and show you and give you a chance because I think people trying to figure out do I need to physically restrain this psychotically yeah I mean is she having a mental breakdown is there something wrong so he was just nice he was just nice yeah like maybe we just need to take you to the hospital or something [Laughter] so I'm gonna backtrack to to Night Out times when you go on these um oh what am I calling them outings with Stephen to these haunted places um one of the techniques that you use is sketching um is this can you just explain to us how this works and um how does it sort of help you open up or is it just like you're getting these visuals and you feel like you need to document them and no it's more for the sake of um explanation it's hard for me to go okay like it's green and it goes like this right it's easier for me to just draw it out to see what I'm I'm looking at but it also helps me drop energy so like if there's something there that I'm not supposed to pay attention to I'll kind of quick sketch and then put a question mark by it or put an if I get a name or something I just kind of put it the the the thing is it's not an exact right when we're receiving information it's not rational it's it's not it's non-linear so I'm just getting pieces and so it's like playing charades like the best charades game ever right I'm trying to get like the information so I'll try to move information that kind of doesn't make sense and shuffle them on my page to try to create what the story is or give me a way to visually map it together so that's what I'm doing when i'm sketching it it lets me connect better but it also lets me drop things that I don't need or drop it when I don't need it at that moment and then pick it up later when I'm somewhere else where I go oh this goes here right so that I know where the pictures come so it's really understand trying to understand non-linear messages and putting them onto a rational space for me to be able to put it together that's all the sketching is for right yeah I do admire do you keep the sketches that you do I do I have like two notebooks full of sketches yeah

it's not necessarily always someone saying something you just will you get will you you'll see a situation is that right so if we think about how you and I connect how you and I are communicating like right now it's really cool because we're on zoom and we can see each other right so the communication that we can use you're hearing my voice you're seeing my body and language but you're also your mind is going what would it smell like being in that room there right what would it be like to be touching like to see like the tactile space but you're still reaching out with your energy and I'm still reaching out with mine because we want to tactically touch somehow energetically this is what we use here in the physical space but I use the same thing in the spiritual space that's what all those clears are for right if you're looking at Clairvoyance clairsentient clear you know hearing our clear audience clear all that stuff that's all your five senses that the same way you have them here in the physical plane they're the same so I have to use all five senses to receive or see information right so some things I visually see that are walking by some things I see in my mind or I hear it in my head or hear it from outside or I can tactically feel it and go there's something on that side of the room I kind of and I use the feeling to try to fix the picture right so everything that I do is to try to create everything in each sense so I can pretty much use all of my senses very well even though my Clairvoyance is probably the highest I can see a lot I can see in my mind or visibly see energy moving in and out or full operations moving about right like I can see those kinds of things but sketching helps me grab the other senses that I don't necessarily pay attention to all the time

so fascinating I wish I could see what you were seeing too and here totally um I was listening to um recently The Gaslight theater episode oh yeah and you I love that you walk in the door and immediately you're just like okay this guy has he's trying to tell me let's you're like hold on a minute and you're you know like talking to and he just keeps trying to bother you and I am envisioning you just in spirits being like she can't she can and I imagine you're just bombarded like a movie would be you know where it's like The Sixth Sense where the little boy can like oh my gosh he can see and hear us you know is that something that is just around you all the time like when and is it something where the spirits acknowledge like oh my gosh she's looking at me she sees me like and then how do you manage that how do you do it just a lot of excited Spirits yeah I acknowledge and build boundaries right this is the so actually it's funny that you mentioned The Gaslight theater that was quiet for the longest time because we did that one during covid yeah it was the first time we were wearing masks and had like our individual microphones and all this craziness right well the spirits in the theater we're used to having people there all the time yeah and then all of a sudden nothing right so as soon as I worked in it

chill it out chill it out a little bit like I know it's been a while and I had to really explain like they were like what happened like what happened to what people why aren't we getting all this stuff right so I had to sit there and just kind of like explain like this is what was going on do you remember the Spanish influenza when we had to wear masks and that was it's the same kind of concept and you know having to explain and Visually kind of show them in my Minds in my head right like what was going on um and so it was really interesting so this is you know for those of you who like to ghost hunt out there you know you need to be cautious especially if you don't understand if you have an ability that you go to these places that have been ran you know they've been quiet they've been random they're out of the way and the spirits have never had anybody to talk to that's not good it's not a good thing you are going to experience things yes but it's going to be 10 times worse if you're disrespectful when you go in there or you start you know screaming at them or doing stuff and they haven't seen somebody for a really long time yeah you're going to have an experience it might not be a good one right it might not be nice does that make you really angry when you see these quote-unquote Ghost Hunters where they are trying to aggravate the spirits it drives me crazy it drives me crazy that and people who own maybe buildings or something like that where they actively do have Spirit things and they purposefully you know they give them positive reinforcement for treating for being ugly to people who come in to visit because that's what they want yeah right and I don't like that either so there's a lot of there's a lot of things you know we've got to be respectful to that Spirit space you know it's kind of like I always do it this way imagine just imagine some random stranger walks into your house and starts asking you what is your name show me your face what do you do it's your house yeah it's your house and they're just walking through it like you're not even there right you're not even there this is the same concept in the spirit world so when they walk in there and they're yelling at them and they're being ugly ugly with them yeah you're gonna get some great [ __ ] on TV that's going to be fantastic right you're going to get you know screaming and yelling and telling you they're going to kill you and all these wonderful stuff you might even get scratched and attacked but it's because of what you're doing to them right and that's not a good way to work with the spirit world it just it just isn't have you met a spirit who has scared you who like can they physically harm you can they is there something that they could do to you like torment I guess like never shut up that would be torture I've met a spirit that likes to that's a that's a little bit of an [ __ ] who's the one on the at the tavern right Walter um this is a little bit just a little bit of an [ __ ] um but he does like to torment me if I'm in there or anywhere close to there and he'll send me visual pictures of him doing ugly things to the people that I'm with like we went once it was just me uh I think me and Steven and kind of like a group of other people that kind of went we went and it was a really busy day at the tavern it was just insane and the moment I walked in I was just consistently just bombarded and it put me in a just like a sore mood so I know that there was one fan going well Sarah's a [ __ ] right it's like sorry right but um but it was just consistent and he was he kept showing me like he was decapitating Stephen or Stephen choking on something or you know there was a person that that we knew that was with us too that he was killing him or he was dying and like all of these things and like I'm gonna do all these crazy things and I was just like just angry and angry and angry till I finally just said we need to leave because I'm like getting even more mad but he was also feeding off of the energy of all the people that were in there so it was making it harder for me to be able to like build that balance check it out yeah so he's he's the only one that I've come across that has been purposefully that way yeah and then uh and then I've had uh the guy from you know the screen I called him the screamer that I kind of picked up at spider house he would just yell at me for just because he wanted to right like for like months until I figured out how to get rid of him right now I was like yeah no we're not going to do that and it was literally just constant like I'd look over and he would just go ah

oh God I struggled for a couple months before I finally just like got rid of him right I got him I got rid of him so when you say get rid of him did you expel him from a realm or you mentioned Realms earlier I guess are all Spirits accessible every person who has passed are they accessible to you or are there different levels in Realms okay so yeah yes yes they are the the the the difference is those that are here are still on this physical plane right the ones that stay here that are ones that are like haunting your house or doing something are in this physical plane and the way that they connect is completely different than somebody who you know who passed who like went where they were supposed to go lucky they they left and they went where they're supposed to go I can still connect with them but the connection is not super clear because they're further away right they're a little further away so to bring them in it takes a little bit more time uh to be able to get to them but once they're connected it's like they're in and you you can you know work with them and talk to them and that kind of thing it's very difficult and so I've always said the difference between reading a person and reading a place right reading a person is much more cloudy there's more emotions kind of involved because that person is emotionally attached to maybe a specific spirit that may not have anything to tell them and it's really hard to be like oh I know you want to talk to your Aunt Judy but your energy doesn't want and it's kind of like she doesn't want to come and I don't summon Spirits because I feel like that's rude right yeah so I'm always like look think about them bring them you think about what you want to ask or talk to them about and let me see if they'll come okay right and if they come in I'll read what's there uh that kind of stuff but yeah you can connect to anybody who has passed away it just depends on where they are whether the connection's strong or not have you had a Spirit come to you and they're like I need to tell you know my daughter this thing I need to tell it like and then you have like what position does that put you in like do you contact their loved one or how it depends some of them like some of them have been dead for like hundreds of years and years so I'm like your loved one's dead right and obviously plain as you so right what do we do with that I just take the story okay give me the story tell me what it is somewhere along the way I it will come up like I'll have a conversation with somebody and it will come up I just kind of feel like I'll have that conversation with this other person the story comes out and the story gets told again and the story will get told again and somewhere it will meet go where it needs to go right little land where it needs to land that's kind of how it works uh but I've been in situations like I got Holocaust out or HEB or grocery store I'll listen or grocery stores in HEB right okay so I've got Holocaust at the grocery store and I was shopping I was getting my breakfast stuff for work right I didn't I was like I'm just gonna get my little yogurt right and my thing and my Topo chicos for work that's what I was in there for and I see this lady like she's coming I'm going down this way and she's coming up this way and I see a man with her and he's he just locked eyes with me and I was like no sir no no no and I turned down the aisle right

I am not gonna do that and I came up another aisle and God damn it she was coming down he like wanted you to like talk to her right he was just like waiting like go right now touch her right now and then he came up to my cart like I got in my case and he was like No And I was like okay HEB she doesn't know me right like here we are I'm gonna walk up to the HEB Here Comes this weird [ __ ] lady right so I walk up and I'm like and I'm like I'm like I know this is gonna sound really weird and she was like what like what like what's going on and I was like okay your dad wants me to let you know that your sister's gonna call you right now and she's gonna tell you that your dad passed away and then she just looked at me like oh [ __ ] Sarah he needs you to go to your mom before and tell your sister not to call her and you go to your mom and you call your sister from there so that she can tell your mom and she was like right her face was like are you [ __ ] kidding me right it's like you're getting angry yeah she started getting angry and then her phone went off and it was oh my God and she she just looked at me and she picked up the phone and she was still mad like I can still see it in her face and uh she was still mad and she answered the phone and she was like and she went quiet and she was like okay she said okay okay and then she just kind of looked at me and her whole face just started falling apart right she was just and I was like I was like okay and she just I said just hang up she's like oh don't call Mom I'm gonna go there right now right she's not gonna go there right now it's like perfect no hang up the phone right like and so she hangs up the phone and she's just standing I was like okay cry a little bit let it all out of your system you're not by yourself do you have your keys yes do you have your purse yes put your phone in your purse okay let's go leave the cart here get the [ __ ] out of here like go to your mom's go to your mom's right now and she's okay and she just walked off right perfect and I'm thinking to myself why the [ __ ] was that the one who had to say that great oh my God so I saw this lady months later months later I thought I'm never gonna see this lady again it doesn't matter she's gonna be like this it was the weirdest thing this crazy lady at the age would be right like I thought it was gonna be like a story yeah so she told somebody no I see her months later with her mom at that same HEB and she goes Mom that's the lady and I'm like I hear it behind me and I'm like that's a lady and I turned around I was like [ __ ]

I'm like oh my God they're probably gonna beat the [ __ ] out of me or something's gonna happen right and they came up and they talked to me and they were like and she was like thank you so much for doing that if they would have told my mom that it would have you know she she I guess the news made her sick so she passed out oh and so she had like somebody was home to like you know something happens the medical thing happened to her during that time so she was there to be with her mom when that happened and to get all the things and everything and you know the lady just hugged me and she was like you know if you see him again do you see him now and I'm like no I don't see him now and she was like okay well you know whatever and how do we get a hold of you right so yeah he's in my card and I was like go forth but it was weird because I didn't think I was gonna ever see them again right but it's nice to know that they you know why I had yeah they were so grateful yeah to understand why and she she admitted she said at first when you said that to me she goes I was so mad she goes I could and I said oh no I saw it yes I'm glad you were she goes until the phone interrupted whatever it was that she was coming across her mind so oh my God I have that I have that pool where Spirits want you to do it now yeah and if I'm in a place where I can honor it I'll do it yeah it'll be weird and you just gotta get used to you know people looking at you like you're weird but uh but normally anybody I've ever approached or talked to they've never been like here's this [ __ ] crazy lady like it's it's never been that it's never been that that is a huge bomb to throw on somebody well we joke about getting a rogue psychic reading at Trader Joe's because I don't have an HP you know I'm like but now hearing that we're like oh wait I didn't ever like consider that could could be bad news I don't even know what we expect but like I feel like in an accident or something really quickly because none of them were expecting it there must have been an accident that even he was like holy [ __ ] I'm gonna go yeah yeah wow um as far as the people who are on this plane still you said is that necessarily a choice there's people who went where they're supposed to go and then there's people who are stuck and even sounds like the people in the theater may be stuck in the theater because they're not really aware of what's going on in the outside world they're they're purposely stuck they want to be there right they want to be there in that space and there's millions of reasons why they would want to get stuck either they just love the environment or you know they enjoy being in that space or they fought They Came Upon it and there was other Spirits there so they stayed right that kind of that kind of thing happens um but typically it is it's a choice they stay there it's an option for them to to not move on um because they themselves don't want to let go of something right they don't want to let go of this world they don't want to let go of a thing they don't want to let go of their family or fear straight up fear yeah right straight up fear they don't know if they're going to be accepted that's one of the the biggest and most common things that happen like are you sure that they're going to want me you know that I can move forward and it's going to be okay right that's the biggest the biggest fear that comes from them and I think that's a hangout right it's a hang up from being human we don't we deserve things and even scarier when you know if the concept of a source right of something big and you discover and you're like [ __ ] like do they really know how horrible I am I don't want to hear I don't want to go in there because we're we automatically negatively judge ourselves right and so the audit we automatically think that that's what the outside Source was going to do so they get scared and they don't go or some die so fast they don't realize they've passed away and they're kind of stuck in a way where they're like why is why are people ignoring me why can't I you know move from where I'm at why can't I be seen so yeah a lot of the stories on the show a lot of the spirits that haunt it's like a sudden accident when something happens so quickly that it's like they almost don't realize that that they're dead yeah it takes somebody they takes somebody to to reach out and let them let them know if they're if they really just don't understand what's happening what are some of the most memorable places that you've gone that have been um I don't want to even say like either positive but the most memorable I for you that were impactful for you so I went with uh one of my medium students um Nicole we went and did a little joint podcast thing for her at uh Yorktown Hospital in Texas which was really fun we stayed overnight and you know had a really good time it's supposed to be the spooky weird kind of place and it was like oh there's a lot of activity my husband was in there researching it like it's gonna be really bad for you it's gonna be really bad and I'm gonna go I'm gonna go and I was like okay well you can come with me like it's fine like I don't care so let's just go and it turned out like yes they had a lot of activities stupid like wow this is a lot of stuff um but it wasn't as bad as people thought right dude I fell asleep in the like I was like yeah we're gonna sleep and you're gonna sleep in the building I'm like yeah I'm gonna sleep in the building it's fine no big deal right had a magical and amazing like moment from it right but it was still fun right I enjoyed it but it was just as bad as I thought it was going to be right so I was like all right whatever I'm just gonna hang out no big deal so I think that's probably like my most like it was my favorite place to go uh that did have like a lot of things a lot of things things kind of going on and I really I was like oh this is neat I like it uh but it's I don't know wasn't as bad as I thought it was gonna be so yeah because when you think of Hospital you think of like doom and sickness and sadness but it it ended up being more positive for you it was more positive for me no matter how hard like you can tell that some people like broke into the space and tried to do you know Silly weird things in there now it's just like yeah no it's that's another thing it's not a thing it's nothing so yeah that was fun so I enjoyed that one but I can definitely tell you like there's two places so far in Texas I cannot stay longer than well the first place I've never even made it inside uh but um they're in Austin specifically there's a spot a jazz place called The Elephant Room oh I've been there before it's a downstairs kind of little thing that you go down these little stairs it's in the basement of something right it's got the windows and stuff yeah yeah no I can't I've tried twice going down uh my husband loves Jazz and he was like let's go to this place I'm like sure and this was before so the first time was before I understood what was going on and the second time it was after so the first time we went down there I maybe made it about five minutes before I went I just said I can't I just left sat outside he was like what's going on I was like I can't be in there nauseated I don't feel good I like got this like the sweats immediately was it horrific so I was like nope I'm not going there so we tried again later and he's like now you wrangled up right you've honed in your ability let's go back to this jazz place because I want to you know go listen to some jazz I was like sure I made it about 15 minutes the mistake I made was actually walking further into the building and go to the bathroom and I was like I can't walked right back out up the stairs so I sat outside I was like you enjoy I'll be here I'll go somewhere else I can't go in there it's one of those weird places so too much energy or too negative so I still have yet to confirm but I'm going to confirm it at some point I'm about to do some history but I think there was a fire there and the people were shut in and died inside oh [ __ ] and it was it's the consistent bombardment they would come to me like kind of screaming and in pain and I could feel like the energy of what was going on and I couldn't do it it was just one of those crazy places um and the other place that I that I go to is like the Alamo I have not made it in the door oh I can imagine I cast out the first time and then the second time I got really close and I started like everything started spinning I was like I can't and I just stayed in the car while everybody else went to go go look it was horrific wow that's horrific so this is the only one two people the only two places I've been to where I'm just like nope can't do it can't do it so you have announced that you are no longer going to be on the night owl podcast right this is going to be the last season you're going to hear me on I'm very sad about that but I did find out that you are starting another podcast can you tell us about that we are so my so I started a space called metaphysical you and I have a group of practitioners that work with me and have been working with me since I started it um and we're gonna get together and just do our own uh little podcast um really from the perspective of you know mediums psychics you know this is not the perspective of somebody who's both hunting or whatever we're going in they're going yeah we know there's something in here let's figure this out all right that's kind of the perspective of it and we're not there to like investigate and say some things some things here right here to investigate and say something is here let's see what it is right let's assume that it's something negative or let's not assume that it's something that you need to fear right now let's just go and see what happens and also to understand that these are things that happen every day to everyone right this is not you know we call it paranormal but it really is just a normal a part of who we are and people are just more sensitive to it than others and some people will learn their craft and some people won't it just you know it is somewhere blessedly you know ignorance is bliss right they don't care so it's one of those things that it's one that we want to go in there and say hey this is a normal part of every day this is not something that you should be fully fearing the way that um you know Hollywood likes to present it it's just it's just not that way and so and then just talking to a bunch of different we want to talk to a bunch of different people who are in the field who are like known mediums or known healers or you know that have different perceptions of what we do because the world of the metaphysical is so big right to include like aliens and things and Cryptids things oh I am so excited about this she's lying she hates aliens no now the podcast I'm the one who gets excited about the UFOs I love aliens too I'm like a big alien fan and then uh Jacksonville practitioners is a big Cryptid fan like he loves his birthday it's like that now I can get it I can get on board with the Cryptid yeah she loves that and uh he's also our you know we all are big alien fans like oh this is a thing it's got to be a thing right yeah yeah so the podcast is called MP Unleashed and it will have four of us on there which is uh AJ Sanchez DD Hawk and Jax wolf and myself very cool I'm excited to listen to that so sorry metaphysical you is that your mentorship yes so I opened that as a school or a place of learning for people to come if they've got you know if they understand that they have abilities they can come you know if they're new at all of this stuff and have no idea what the hell I'm talking about they can come right that's kind of fun if you're seasoned and you've been there forever please come right I teach all foundations so it's basically the the basic like underlining Foundation of what you need to know from for any metaphysical space right and then from there you can jump out and do whatever it is that you need to do but the foundations of everything is is is the same no matter what you're working with with your whether you're working with a Cryptid or you're working with an alien or working with a spirit the foundation of it is the same it's all about the energy and how you move it and how you feel it and how you can accept it right so that's I didn't have a place like that to go to when I was developing I got suckered out of a lot of money and a lot of things and a lot of time and ended up finding out either I knew more than they did they didn't know what the hell they were talking about or they were just taking money just to take money and I hated that right so it was really happy having a place to give people who are starting out good information and enough to get them to go down rabbit holes and learn about themselves and learn about what they're doing and kind of get them excited about their ability to to do this right yeah yeah it seems like a vulnerable space like where grifters like can really sink their claws in to and not always desperate people but vulnerable people you know if you're confident enough right you and don't have a conscious [ __ ] yeah conscience conscience yeah oh my gosh yeah that that's tough where where is metaphysical you is it in person or is it online so I offer an in-person development space starting in April this was initially supposed to be in person because I started it right before I know rather timing is fantastic so pretty much everything we had to shift into an online fashion and we've been online for years right since 2020. so uh we've been able to hold classes like this I do readings like this uh that kind of stuff I don't like it as much so I've built in field trips that we can go to where we can all kind of meet and see each other but the online lets me meet people from everywhere else in the country right that doesn't live in Austin so it's kind of nice because I can get other people and see other people and they can still learn and and in group right we need we group up and talk to each other and that kind of thing it's it's so important the job that you're doing like you know we've had a we've had a few mediums on the show and you know I'm sure that you know I I know for example Nicole you're Nicole from the real ghost self podcast who we had on a skeleton you're her Mentor but what a treat and what a gift that you're able to help guide these people um I have a friend who I talk to who she's a medium in denial and I um I'm just so happy to know now that you offer this because I am emailing her as soon as we get off please contact Sarah she can guide you like don't deny your abilities not deny your abilities yes um one of the things Nicole talked about when she was on and um our other uh medium uh Dr Jess when she was on they talk about Spirit guides is that something that you also have and um if so how would you um suggest somebody who maybe isn't a medium like Alyssa and I if we wanted to get in touch with our Spirit guides we all have them just to be clear it's not just mediums and psychics right everybody has them uh in order for you to be able to meet or speak with them or be able to do it is to make time make time to do that right make time to do that and set an intention on what you're doing to bring them in so I the fact the best way that I can tell you especially if you know if we're looking at a listen we're looking at you Brett like hair I want to be able to meet my my spirit guide I will tell you I want you to set an intention to meet your primary guide right this guide is very important this is important this guide has known you since before your light was sparked here right they're helping you stay on track for your life purpose what you need to do even even if it's difficult for them to watch you go through something if they know that it's for your life purpose they're going to let you go through it right that's just kind of how it is so think about how important that is you task them with this you make sure I do what I'm supposed to do in this lifetime and they're watching you do this this whole time and you've trusted them that much so you know them you've known them your whole time this whole time the idea is you just don't remember that you know them right like oh okay I didn't know you were there so when you want to meet with them you can do it in multiple ways right meditation isn't like you know sitting cross-legged floating in the air like a Swami right that's not what meditation is meditation is simply something simple like if you're crafting if you're drawing if you're walking if you're just taking some time to just do a little bit of breathing because you've had a hard day or you love to cook and you're putting things together in your kitchen right make some space for your primary guide to join you in that activity just set the intention and say I would love you to come and join me in this activity help me here if your idea of meditation is I'm going to take a nap hey come take a nap with me let's take a nap maybe we'll Can Dream together you can introduce introduce yourself to me in sleep right that's probably the best way to meet a guide because we don't have any reservations that we do here and we're more consciously aware of what's going on and then stay alert right you're going to see things or things are going to be popping in your mind over and over again like maybe you'll get a consistent name or like a consistent color you're constantly seeing it everywhere like why am I seeing yellow everywhere right then go back and ask the guy hey is that yellow is that you right you're gonna get an affirmation you're gonna feel the yes you're gonna feel the no right you're gonna know but give yourself the time to meet this person right they know everything about you but you don't know anything about them find out who they are and then just reach out that way see how you're connected ask things like what did you used to do how do I know you why do we know how do we know each other right ask those kinds of things while you're washing the dishes folding clothes whatever puts you into the Zone where you're just concentrating on that one thing right you don't necessarily have to be sitting in silence right staring at a candle all day no you don't have to do that this is helpful meditation I feel like Alyssa and I could do that because we uh walking laundry yeah yeah finding that not necessarily having to find the time to like sit down and tell everybody to shut up so I can sit quietly I just you know live life just finding the space why it does not work for everybody it doesn't work for me the way that I man meditate is in full chaos I love that quote I meditate there's no other way to do it so Alyssa and I are newbies at sort of this whole paranormal Community I mean we've been doing the podcast for over you know two years now but I still would consider as a newbie but what would you say to somebody who maybe isn't quote unquote a medium but they do have some sensitivity does this just go back to the meditating or would you um recommend that we find I would say study like if you were because everybody is wired to do this everybody right the only difference is that some people are just hyperactive into whatever it is because of trauma or because of our own contracts of doing something here in this lifetime that we need to do right but everybody's wired this way we are all intuitive because it's part of our fight or flight right so if you've ever heard anybody go I'm an empath you can just laugh at them and say yes oh my right the dog next door and the Elephant that's over there in Africa right they're all empathic because it's part of our flight fight or flight mechanism right we used to before we hunted across HEB and Trader Joe's we hunted for our food we depended on the land to give us signals we depended on our animals which you just heard mine get up right now are animals to give us signals for the plants to show us that there was something going on to give us the shapes of things that we could eat or not eat right we had to survive somehow and we also had to be connected to each other there were no cell phones back then right we had to be able to have a way to reach out to the other person say hey over here or come back this way or man I'm dying right like hey help me right now the the saber-toothed tiger got me right like whatever it is that you're able to be able to have that connection our connections were a lot clearer before we introduced cell phones and concrete we still are wired that way we're still coming into this world designed to be part of it right so we still have this it's just about really understanding how that works how your your own body energy works how you receive things I have a lot of people who are like oh I became a massage therapist and for some reason I feel like I'm going crazy like I'm picking up all of these things of course because you're picking up the energy of the clients and then you go home with that because you don't know that you have to clear the energy out of your body right it's just a simple either visualization or something that you can do with water or something to just clean out that energy and then you can go home and you won't feel like the way the client felt right because you picked up all that information so we're all wired and designed I say to that person you know come learn with us right we have a Wednesday night um online Zoom that anybody can join it's open to the public right it's free you can come in bring your questions listen to us chit chat if you want to sometimes I throw games out there we do silly things but bring a good dad joke because I love good dad jokes right so just bring your best dad joke and you know come and you can sit with us and join us it's every Wednesday night at 8pm Central Standard Time right um how can yeah how can we find this and find metaphysical you the zoom link is online it's on www.metaphysical the letter u.com and if you go under Services you'll see development groups and the first thing you're going to see is that Wednesday night catch up and the zoom link is right there you can just join us any any Wednesday and you know sit down with us don't be shy you're gonna be like I'm gonna be on with a bunch of strangers it's okay very very accepting right very accepting bring your questions bring your silly things that you think might be silly you sit and listen it doesn't matter but at least start to open up into that space and then sometimes I'll give you books to read or challenges to do for that week we'll give you like the card of the week we have AJ that will join us and pulls a card right and he'll pull a card of the week um and just kind of give us something to think about while we're working from week to week it's just the best time so sometimes I leave the discussions or AJ Sanchez does he's my other uh practitioner and we'll just kind of go with the group and go in there and our practitioners join students join random people join right and we get random people that kind of join us all the time so it's fine it's fine oh that's excellent okay so besides your website um if somebody wanted to reach out for questions or mentorship uh how else could they get in touch with you they can get in touch with me about all my information is on the website but you can get in touch with me you can email me directly at sarah.r.reads gmail or you can definitely reach out to admin at metaphysical you.com okay so at the end of our skeletons Alyssa and I ask one final question well I'll ask the question but we both want to know what three objects would we need to bring to a seance to summon you from the afterlife she summoned me from an afterlife you'd have to definitely bring tequila okay and don't be bringing me no cheap ass tequila either that's not gonna do it right it's not gonna do it do your research get a good bottle of silver because I'm a silver fan right I don't like those Rebel saddles or all those it's very rare that I drink those I don't like those so yeah definitely that um you would definitely need to bring a representation of Keanu Reeves somehow right I'm just gonna get Keanu play the magic you know or something right like say something on their you know the John Wick just have it running okay in the background that kind of stuff um and then I would tell you probably the third thing is probably bring some water because after that tequila and you know I'm gonna cool down a little bit so yeah hydration we need some electrolytes well water's a conduit too right that's what we've been told yeah yeah so so bring some bring some water definitely all right we're bringing Keanu a huge ass bottle of Silver Tequila Alyssa will have to pick out I love tequila but I like a Reposado so I'll have to do the research on the the just do the soap just take your favorite this other one just get the silver okay there's a couple it's my favorite it's like my favorite thing I love this party this will be great I mean Keanu Reeves is going to be there [ __ ] yeah that's awesome and he's going to be there no matter what even if you're dead he's coming all right I'll make it happen like check out these chicks they're playing your movie come here

oh Sarah this was an absolute treat like cherry on top of my year month two years I love it thank you so so much no thank you for in inviting me reaching out to chatting with me yeah it's been so fascinating I like literally I have to keep myself from asking more questions because I I love it so you can ask dude I can do this all day I'm good for five hours

uh well Sarah was there anything else that you wanted to talk about tonight no just I will haunt y'all later

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